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Do coolant additives help
Posted: June 30 2006 10:45 PM
 
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Does any one use coolant additives. I tried a product called 40 below and it seemed to me that it helped or at least i think it did. What is best if any evans, water weter, 40 below, or others. Just something to kick around.

 
 
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Posted by 100646  -  06/26/2006 06:05 PM
NO!!! How hot is too hot?
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Posted by gman0046  -  06/26/2006 05:41 PM
They only help the manufacturer make a lot of money selling a B.S. product. If you have a cooling problem it can't be fixed by something out of a can.
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Posted by tlp1968  -  06/26/2006 05:47 PM
Bought one of those chemical treatments to help cool down the big block in hubby's car....wish I had not wasted the money. He simply needs the right radiator and fan for the application- there are no shortcuts.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  06/26/2006 04:59 PM
they will help lube your cooling system but not much else.
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Posted by tlp1968  -  06/26/2006 07:07 PM

Ours never got too hot but you can tell when the temp is climbing and the fans are all on that it isn't enough. The pink stuff didn't change that.

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Posted by ronhotrod  -  06/26/2006 09:04 PM
you all are right there are no 'bandaids' for a poor cooling system. HOWEVER - if your system is effective and working properly, some additives such as 40 Below CAN decrease running temperatures. It is NOT a cure all patch. The best 'coolant' is plain old water, period. But it needs help when a/c and/or cold temperatures are a factor. I've sold more radiators and fans to folks who didn't take the time to analyze their system and correct it first than I'd care to count. Most wouldn't even listen when I offered to help with diagnosis first. Be careful, it's not always the radiator/fan's fault.
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Posted by Fourstring  -  06/27/2006 08:49 AM

Additives? Do they help?..Ahhh, help what?



It all depends on your symantics, I call anti-freeze/anti-boil, like Prestone, as I lived in near Boston..Fall River to be exact, and now I have been in Florida where the days about now are 94-96 d. In Ma. The additve coolants, help , definately, and if you want to bring the freeze point a bit lower, then you can try the products you are speaking of.they will all alter the specific Gravity of H2O and thereby, altering boiling and freezing points. That is Plain ol' Physics,! I have been a rodder when only a 32' roadster was called a true ROD..and it kept me out of a lot of shows, as most of my cars were custom 1954 Chevies, 210 2-dr. sedan simi-customs..I used anything that I thought would save my engine in he winter as 6volts did not do the job, but, I upgraded the electronics for starting in the winter also, I also added a amsoil or now I use a full synthetic Mobil 1 for these hot days in Florida that do nOT quit.



One day I ran out of coolant, and I had to stop the car. A guy was waving at me from his house.."the grass under your car is on fire". was his words, so I used an additive that I saw on TV whereas, cars were all started with no oil and just the passing through of an additive, well this happened again as I lost my fluid on my 1965 Riv. and the oil was gone..wow!!!



With the oil additive, nothing caught fire, the engine did NOT overheat, at a temp, of over 200d....I drove it home and immediately locked it down.





I will say this for additives...Look, listen, study..if it works for you as it did for me..damn, you'll be a happy quacker, but, you really have nothing to lose but your engine!





I would have that hot day in summer with that 425 CID 465 FT/LBS torquer, and 2X 4 sitting on top. I must say this:I rebuilt that hi cammed 2x4 Buick myself and I checked everything that I could...if you use an additive..you might be happier for $5.00 every couple of weeks, (with the Arabs screwing us anyway)..it will help, ...SPECIFIC GRAVITY!..remember the term..if you add anything to plain water, your specific gravity will change and the ability to not boil over or freeze over will be on your odds. I started working on cars in 1962 when I was 14 and ready to get into my first 6 cyl. chevy, and put the most that I could into it,: a Corvette can into a 261" + .040 and .100 off od the head, and splits with 3 carbs on it..the greatest help you can give to an inline six(6) is to feed those end cylinders by adding extra carbs, then an extra lift and duration from the Corvette (6) meant I won 90% of every race against the V-8's ...no problem.





Boy, have times changed...I had a ball with my Chevies back then...and with my 1963-1965 Rivieras in the 1980's to retirement this year.





OH YES an ADDIVE WILL definately help!...BassPlaying:"Fourstring". Was it that far back??? Now, I play my guitars, and wait for the "call to home!".... Again: "Fourstrings"







Bass Playing "Fourstring"





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Posted by keith83  -  06/27/2006 06:27 PM
How hot is too hot? If it ain't throwing the coolant out it aint too hot. The best coolant is 50% distilled water and 50% antifreeze. The higher pressure the cap the higher the boiling point. Our old round track racer ran 240 all the time. Straight water and 25 pound cap. (anti freeze not allowed) Never a problem. KEITH
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Posted by JoeP  -  06/26/2006 04:21 PM
I don't beleive any of the additives (snake oil) work if your having a temperture problem fine out what is causing it correct the problem. Nothing like a fan shroud and a good puller fan. Joe
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Posted by whipsold39  -  06/26/2006 10:52 PM
Thanks for your input on additives. I dont have a real problem with getting hot. Ican cruise slow around a good guys show with no heat problem . I guess i was just looking for a comfort zone. THANK YOU
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Posted by Barryk  -  06/30/2006 10:27 PM

Actually water disperses heat much faster than an antifreeze mix, this is why a lot of people in warmer climates will only run 25% antifreeze instead of 50.50 mix.



Same principle that a 10W oil will disperse heat faster than a 40W

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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  06/30/2006 08:57 PM
hey , i read it in a magazine ! it's gotta be true.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  06/30/2006 08:58 PM
but additives do work. you adda da fan , you adda more radiator
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Posted by ANGELT  -  06/30/2006 08:48 PM
Grew up in the West Texas desert working in my Dad's radiator shop. It is very simple. If your internal combustion engine will not cool with plain water, nothing from a can or bottle will fix it. Bad engineering, poor cooling components, bad tune can all lead to overheating. The only fix is to repair the base problem. Additives can add to component life, (rarely since the newer antifreezes take care of aluminum corrosion problems, lubrication, etc.) Proper coolant flow and air flow and good tuning are the only solutions to overheating. There are poorly desingned systems which cannot be helped without complete re-engineering. Don't waste your money on smoke and mirrors.
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Posted by ANGELT  -  06/30/2006 10:20 PM
Just keep on Shine, you will find my foot adda'd to your butt.
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Posted by softtail1334  -  06/28/2006 08:36 AM
I've used water wetter in both my demo derby and drag cars for years and it drop the temp down 10-15 degrees. That was enough difference for me to pay the $7 a bottle
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Posted by 100646  -  06/26/2006 06:06 PM
NO!!! How hot is too hot?
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Posted by tlp1968  -  06/29/2006 06:00 PM

That was the same product I bought....never dropped a degree, in fact made the average higher.

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Posted by Barryk  -  06/30/2006 07:47 PM

The scam with the water wetter is you must drain all the antifreeze out.



Well if you run straight water it will cool better than an antifreeze mix anyway.



When I was at the oil company, one of my jobs was private label additives, its big business and its the same crap in different label and different dye and smell additives and you can buy the same thing off the shelf in one company name for $1.99 at Advance and the exact same crap in another label (much prettier for $14.95).



Have any of you noticed the oil companies do not have an additive except for Chevron, they have fuel additive call techron and it does work or they would not put their name on it.



If you want to buy an additive, take that money and buy a lottery ticket as your odds of getting something good is better with the ticket.

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Posted by orphans2  -  06/27/2006 05:49 PM
Not knowing whether true or not, but I have heard and read where some of the water additives can actually be harmful to your engine, in particular the seals and gaskets. But that may be an urban legend.
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Posted by JAWS  -  06/30/2006 01:03 AM

You can do whatever you want to your cooling sytem. If it doesn't have the ability to cool efficiently you are throwing $ in the trash. Just my opinion.-Brant

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Posted by tlp1968  -  06/30/2006 09:51 AM
Agreed
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