Fellow car nuts! Here is your chance. Run right over to your local Sam's club and place your order soon. Christmas is coming and you could get this for under your tree!
Gman...you're way off the shoulder of the road guy. Over half of the guys out there have either bought their car from someone or paid someone to build it and I don't think you can say it's the same as buying a PT Cruiser. The spirit of hot rodding goes way beyond just building them. There are thousands of guys out there that didn't build their cars that are the backbone of the hobby. I've owned and wrenched on cars all of my life and have been active in the hobby for many years. Me and guys like me have contributed to the tradition of hot rodding in ways that can't be measured by the amount on the checks that were written. How about the countless hours and money spent organizing club activities, rod runs, host club duties at car shows, charity fund raisers for Hope Hospice, Xmas adopt-a-family programs, supporting youth groups, helping other rodders when needed, etc. etc. etc. It takes more than just building a car to be a street rodder, so in spite of what you might think.....I consider myself a streetrodder. By the way, I'm not a high-roller check writer... just a working stiff that saved up for a long time to finally make a dream come true.
Extremely cool car. The Goodguys are giving away one as their 2006 giveaway car. One person is picked at each show (18 total participants) and at Columbus next year, they all get to pick a key to see which one will start the car. At the West Coast Nat'ls a couple of months ago, my son in law got picked as a contestant! Can't wait to go to Columbus...it would be an exciting day if he wins it!
Ok guys, I can go one better! For 100 G's, I will fly you to my house, Get my old Kodak brownie out and take pics of you, take you to Mickey D's for dinner, put you up in the Moonglow Motel, give a 15 minute vidoe of me changing oil and waxing the car, and deliver My Willys to your house!! Wow, half the price for the same adventure!!
What the heck is going on in this world? There is either way too many people with too much money or I surely mssed the boat on my chosen career and life. Someone stop the madness!
Sorry about the rants and raves but I am trying to figure out to downsize and afford a comfortable retirement life and stuff like this comes out! ARRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! I knew I should have bought IBM at 6 dollars!!! Ha-ha-ha!
Red, do you think it is because the kids born in the 60's are now in their 40's? I think when you hit 40 you start thinking about the toys you gave up and want them back. I remember the kids in high school having 60's Camaro's, GTO's, Mustangs, and Cuda's and wanting one when I turned 16. It took another 9 years or so but when I finally was able to purchase one it was a real thrill. Sold my drag car and everything to buy it. What a bargain at $2700.00
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You should realy smile with all them seat problems! As far as the big check writers go ---I'm hoping I'm related to some of them...I am! My sister writes big checks all the time..Rubber ones!(even to me)
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Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't deny anyone their right to spend their money however they please. I also applaude anyone who can snag a living building dream level cars, let alone just plain good drivers. And yes, wealthy patrons have funded the endevours of artists for centuries, which we can all be greatful for.
I still don't llike PT Cruisers at rod runs though!
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop - 10/30/2005 07:40 AM
sound like a car nut to me. just find a six pack with one missing and you'll fit right in. they let me hang around cause i'm so purty
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To me buying a Foose built car makes you a streetrod owner not a streetrodder. You would simply be known as the guy who paid Foose to build him a car. Streetrodder's are the guy's who have creativity, knowledge and skill to build, maintain and modify vehicles. Writing a check to have someone do your work for you, requires nothing except deep pockets. Paying someone to build you a streetrod is not much difference then buying a PT Cruiser and driving it to a rod run.
I paint cars for a living the fact is that not having the ability to build a nice car doesn't make you a person who just owns a rod.I suck at football but I love it. I can argue plays for hours and how they should be done but i can't do it. Being a street rodder isn't about building it its about loving it. And why should someone spend the money and build it themselves to make a half-A** car because their not mechanically inclined when they can pay me or another builder like me to do it for them nice?
Sure sounds this really started something. Hope it does nor cause any bad blood around here.I think most of the people visiting this site are "rodders". There are a lot of questions and answers, suggestions of different approaches to something, and all around good times. My feeling is that the people visiting here either have the desire to build their own car, have the deire to build but are limited by either space or tools(believe me, I know) or do not have the ability to build one. I feel most people here would not spend that kind of money, but if they were going to spend ANY money, it would probably be on their ideas or from a builder they pick. I think the guy that spends the $200 G's will either never drive it or if he does, won't have any idea where they oil and gas go. I have never priced out a built, let's say, speedster, but would it run in the $200 G's area? If so, I guess that's what the market will bear. Shine, Leon, Red,and all you other pros, does that number seem right or is it because of the Foose name?
Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop - 10/30/2005 08:49 AM
it has'nt been a builders hobby for 20 years. these cars are investments. lets be real here. a lot of trailer bashing comes from people who are too cheap to pony up and finishe their ride. i know several. they bad mouth billet but have a junky wrecking yard motor in their car that has'nt been cleaned since it was hacked into the car. same thing goes for rat rodders who think they invented hotrodding and have the only true hot rod. bullstuff ! i dont like ratty looking anything and dont care who built it or why. how about bass boats? did you build your own golf cart ? ok if you did'nt then your not a fisherman or golfer. this is about to turn into one of those hamb things. kill it orphans , we dont need that stuff here.
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I think that is about as far away from the true heart and soul of this hobby you can get. All you check writers( I just sign sign on the dotted line and I'm a hot rodder /street rodder) just don't frickin get it do ya??? Getting dirty and loving it!
The best part about building a street rod, muscle car or classic is the restoration. The searching for just the right parts, building your engine (or at least planning it) and putting it all together. I have to keep my old girl just because I cannot afford to do all that work again.
As for the extreme pricing on these cars.....I don't have any retirement with Big Al so let the prices rise!!! :-) might just keep me out of the cardboard box a little longer- Ha-Ha
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This is starting to sound like the old "builder versus check writer" issue that's been talked about before. You builders have got to remember that not all of us have the talent, resources, or time to build our own but that doesn't make us any less of a Rodder than you. I've owned a lot of street rods in my time and had to work on all of them but I've never built one from scratch. I would bet that the majority of the guys out their are like me and had to "write the check" (big or small) rather than build one. The only thing that keeps Foose and others out their building these expensive cars is because there are still high-rollers willing to step up for these special cars. If the high cost of these cars continues, I think you'll see some changes in the hobby for the future. It's a popular hobby but for me, if the cost of these cars continues to climb, I'll be forced to buy a "beater" or take up wood carving as my next hobby.
PT Cruisers at rod runs is a joke, the same goes for the late model Corvette's and Plymouth Prowlers that show up at rod run's. I like the way their owners sit by the car's as if they built them. Unfortunately the hobby seems to attract Wanabee's.
Fad toys. Fad accessories. Fad designer cars to go with all the other designer labels. And if that's not bad enough, a dozen PT Cruisers with chrome cartwheels and fuzzy dice (some with stick-on flames) pull in to a rod run - AAGGHHHHHH!
"Can I have $Xk worth of 'lifestyle' please?" "Would you like that gift wrapped?"
Ca-ching! Speedy Bill's worked that out.
Am I bitter?
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Posted by reneg8d - 10/27/2005 11:38 PM
Sigh. There will always be people out there with more money than most. They will be just as proud of their 200K "whatever it is" as we are of our rides we've built or are building by saving nickels and dimes and in my case skipping lunches.. Are they ruining the hobby? Nah, just making it harder for us to afford bodies, parts and chassis..( I need to lose weight anyway) and making some people a lot of money in the process. $198K for the Foose car? it almost sounds reasonable, considering the engine alone is probably $50K. Still, I wouldn't buy it even if I had the cash.. Because I didn't build it myself.
Something less combative??? If i can't argue with you guys, I have to argue with the wife!! And I know I will loose that one!! As far as trick or treaters, we do not get any as the people feel the street is too busy and without sidewalks they won't let their kids come by the house. My wife says it's because of me!!!
I've been visiting this site for a while and realy enjoy it. I am starting to wonder where I fit. I have a 1930 model A that I am building into a street rod, a 1961 Rambler Classic painted satin black with flames that I bought finished because I liked it. I am doing a frame off rebuild on a 1973 Corvette with upgrades. I bought a nice 1987 Corvette to drive and just got a 2000 Corvette convertable that is a real blast to drive. I have a 1977 Ford truck that has been lifted a total of 7". My wife and I have a problem getting rid of vehicles. We also have our daily drivers that we drive to work. I do all my own work including paint and mechanical and enjoy it very much. I go to rod runs as well as corvette shows and enjoy them equaly. Am I a part time wannebe?
The great thing about this hobby has always been NO RULES, just make it safe. You build or buy a car because you like it. Nothing more, nothing less. If you like someones car let them know. If you don't smile and move on to the next one. While seeing a PT cruiser at a car show might go against the grain, it is a car show. No need to get all worked up about it. In the big picture who cares about that other than the people driving it. This thread could go on forever, but it shouln't. Enjoy what you got, it doesn't matter how you got it. Take pride in the fact that you built it, or saved the money to buy it, or made a good trade. Thats all folks
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Posted by Red's Place Custom & Restoration - 10/25/2005 10:22 PM
69 camaros are right now one of the hotest cars out there. I have 2 in my shop now and another coming as soon as I can get it in. I will post photos of one this week. it has a 468 going in it and will be sorta set up for the straight line run with a few body and interior changes. the other is a convertable that we have been planning for sometime now. it will be either wild or just a street car. with around 25000 just for parts mainly in drivetrain it takes alot of planning . I think just a few short years ago the car to have was a 40 Ford coupe. my how times change.
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Posted by JohnTMcgraw - 10/31/2005 09:11 PM
Well guys,
We all just write checks for our cars, one way or another! Some of us spend huge ammounts of money for tools so that we can do it ourselves, and some guys just cut out the middleman. Not everybody has the skills to build their own car, and there are some whose time is more valuable doing other things than thrashing on a car. I am just a stupid old country boy whose time is well spent building my own cars, and this is what I truly enjoy. I don't think any less of a guy who can afford to buy a finished car and in my opinion he is just as much a rodder as we are! In regards to the age of the car, to me this has never been an issue. I do not think that hotrods stop at some magical year, much less 1948! The muscle car rods have just as much appeal as the early model stuff does to me, and the market clearly is moving in that direction. How many ways can you do a 32 ford before you run out of ideas? I think the upsurge in muscle car rods is to some degree, a result of this. A lot of the shift is because of the changing of demographics, and this will continue to change as the years go by. Guys identify with the car that was cool when they were young, and when they get the time or money, they will seek out those cars. If you do not believe this just look at the difference in average age of the owners of these cars. There will allways be younger guys interested in the older iron, but the growth is going to be in the later cars. I like all hot rods from all years, and think that if you seal yourself off in your own little time capsule, you really lose out on a lot of neat stuff! Some of the best known street rod builders are now doing muscle cars, and they all say that they would rather be building 32 roadsters, since they are a lot easier, but the market is demanding them and the demand is really off for early cars. Face it guys, there are a lot of baby boomers coming up on retirement age with huge ammounts of expendable income, and they will be buying cars and not building them for the most part. The days of the average street rodder being a guy who has tinkered with cars all his life, is being replaced to a large extent, with guys wo used to tinker with cars when they were young, and are now looking for something they have missed from their youth while they were out making a living. It takes a guy with a real love for cars to shell out over $100K for a car that he has wanted since he was young!
The fact that we all can get on this site and vent, makes us all brother rodders. If you got a big checkbook--- fine! YOU WON! We are still all pretty much the same some just a little more are lucky than some. Now lets move on to something less combative.
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i agree with brian41chevy. most of my friends are hotrodders/street rodders. some of them have built their cars, some haven t. not everybody can dofrom mechanical to paint to interior. i have met some of the best people i know at rod runs or similar get togethers. to me they are all street rodders because we all love this hobby.i like all types of cars,ain t rich but told my wifeif i ever won the lottery i d have about 50 cars.i ve had my 48 anglia for 11 years and still love driving it,finished 34 ford truck about 6 months ago.finished 64 ss nova maybe year ago, 86 vette daily driver and have driven vettes last 26 years. i have not done all work on cars but do consider myself a street rodder/hot rodder.
Personaly,my two cents, wich aint worth bending down and picking them up,is this.....
every one here is right in their own perspective, with out builders there wold not be buyers,without buyers there would not be builders. there would be the guy in the garage or home shop building his car but he would not make a living at it. I am what you might call a very young builder. I am doing it all my self, if I dont have enuf knowlage or experance to get it right, (right being the key word...its only has to be right to me) then I will have to pay someone to doit. now this is AMERICA and we built this country like most want to build their car,with diversafication, not every one being alike,we are all diferent, and it should stay that way, I am a disabled vet and at the ripe old age of 28 ( yeah twenty eight) I have been to batle,scard,stabed,shot at, and temperarly paralized, but I was diferent. I am walking and working on my truck in my spare time. some of us soldiers wernt so lucky. but being diferent is not bad, just diferent. just rember that eveery one of us needs each other one way or another. might not have choped the top if i didnt see someone else doit, or paid to have it done. you might not have your car if someone didnt pay you to build thiers.
I love you all and value your friendship, and faught for your right to build your car the way you wanted ( even if you wanted to build it by pulling out your check book, because it was a realy nice car to see!!! )
thank you all for my money, and hope this gets erased soon, because it is not woth getting worked up over!
I agree, I was just pointing out a nice car with a mind boggling price. More power to anyone who can afford that. I smile just as big driving mine and really could not care less about what someone else has in theres money wise.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop - 10/28/2005 07:25 AM
guys if not for people who know little to nothing about cars i would be out of bez. there is absolutly nothing wrong with someone buying into our hobby. if they did'nt pony up the money some of us would never get to build one of "those" cars. i'll tell you one thing for sure, i prefer the guy who knows nothing! he wont be telling me how or what to do. nothing wrong with a budget car either. all mine are. we should make these folks just as welcome as anyone. it's not them who jack up the cost of parts or cars. tag that on those selling the parts and the magazine hype. a budget streetrod is 30k worth of parts to start with [ new, not bone yard] so how can we build one for you fo 35k? this is one of the few sites where everyone is welcome and no foul mouth airheads jumping anyone. lets keep it that way.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop - 10/29/2005 12:33 PM
dont know what happened to your post carguy but i'm behind you 100%. take away all the advances to the hobby brought about by people buying cars and our hobby would be a lot smaller and the aftermarket would be minumal. every builder started in his garage. if not for somebody like carguy footing the bill his killer ass car would never have been built.and i would not have had the joy of looking at it. and that is what it's all about. i dont have the bucks to build a car like that so the only way i'll enjoy building one is for someone else to make it happen. you dont have to build it to love it. just my humble opinon.
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In my opinion (which isn't worth a dime) I think the new Foose 69 is boring. he modified the front end put a big motor in it a charged a ton of money for it.
I think it's okay to vent now and then. Good for the soul. Clears the air and establishes boundaries. We're males...we need that. Anyway, my tent and beer cooler is always open to anyone (builder or otherwise) that wants to talk cars and laugh a little.
When I was growing up in the late 50's and early 60's the hot cars to have were the tri-five era cars. Couple of kids had the new 64 GTO's and Bonnevilles or 409 Impala's but their families had bigger wallets than the rest of us. My first was a 56 Ford Crown Vic and yes I would love to have it back as well as my 69 Hemi Cuda fastback. In high school I used to doodle hotrodded 32-34 sedans and roadsters. No longer doodle cause now I own one. When the 69 Camaro's came out I was into the Mopar and never gave them a look. Today I would still prefer a 69 Cuda fastback (don't have to be a hemi, a 340 would do) over the 69 Camaro.