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Posted: November 24 2006 10:31 AM
 
Gary Scannevin (aka gman0046) [ View ] [ gman0046@aol.com ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ]
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Regarding the current "New Nova" thread, I'm having trouble understanding why someone would part with their hard earned cash for something they haven't seen. Although I almost did that once. The car a 57 Chevy Wagon was on eBay, it was about a 4 hour drive from my house. I talked with the owner several times. He told me the car was straight, rust free and with new paint. The purchase price was low enough that I thought you couldn't get hurt on the deal. The owner wanted a wire transfer and $100 to deliver the car. Thank God I came to my senses and went to see it before purchasing it. If the owner had it outside, I wouldn't even have stopped. It had new paint alright but no body work was done before they painted it. As I looked down the sides at all kinds of ripples, the owner said thats the way all 57's came. Wrong on that. Dents were everywhere. The car was nothing like he had described. I woudn't have bought it for any price. I learned my lesson. If you haven't seen it, don't buy it.
 
 
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Posted by Rods & Customs by Leon  -  11/23/2006 01:38 PM

Sometimes alls it takes is an unbias person to see ways to rectify a situation, I just glad to see everyone can keep cool heads and realize things aren't as bad as they seam.



Glad I could help guys, now lets enjoy, Glenn, You can send me the paperwork and Don can drop me a check and everything is fine.
Rods & Customs by Leon [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Highlands, Texas Charter Member since May 2004
 
Posted by bigdude  -  11/21/2006 06:02 PM
I have been lucky,I've traded for 8 cars in ten years and wasnt dissapointed with any of them! But I asked alot of questions and saw alot of pictures too.
resident know it all [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Three Rivers, Michigan Charter Member since January 2004
 
Posted by Willys33  -  11/21/2006 10:13 PM
Had a friend put a deposit down on a '46 Ford coupe he saw in a trader mag. Called the guy and he said it was a coupe (front pic only) and only rust was under the gas pedal. When he got there it was a 2 door sedan, rust stopped at the door handles and the guy lived in a run down trailer. Couldn't get his money back because the guy had none. Got mad and said he was going into the house and get something worth the deposit. Came out shaking his head and just left.
Get off the trailer and drive [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Alamogordo, New Mexico
 
Posted by 1carguy  -  11/21/2006 10:43 PM
Buyers need to beware when doing business with someone out of your area that you don't know. Even if you are not dealing with a 'crook', sometimes communication (or lack of) causes misunderstanding. Buyers need to do their homework, ask questions, ask for documentation, etc. DON"T ASSUME anything...CHECK and VERIFY information. If you can't see it yourself, have a third party look at it first. I've bought and sold cars out of state (some sight unseen) and never had a problem, but I also had a car built by Taylors Custom Street Rods in Ohio and have had nothing but problems. My fault for paying up front without thoroughly checking out the finished product. I learned a lesson. Bottom line...unless you go check it out yourself, it's a dice roll.
1carguy [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Pleasanton, California
 
Posted by 31tudor  -  11/22/2006 01:21 AM

I didn't have the opportunity to see New Nova in person, but based on the other cars I've seen Don turn out I'm hard pressed to see how it could possibly be anything but great.



I'm way too picky and I know it. I would NEVER buy a car sight unseen! If I can't see it in person I don't need it that bad!



Airplane tickets sure are cheap insurance!
Eric Hibbs [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] St. George, Utah Charter Member since January 2002
 
Posted by Streetrodder007  -  11/21/2006 08:57 PM
I too have bought and traded on the internet a hand full of times, full cars, parts, services, etc, knock on wood, I have never had a bad experience. I do keep in mind that everybodys idea of a $35000 car is different, so I dont mind very small problems, its the big stuff like cracked heads or blown rearend that would suck. I ask alot of questions also, and try to get a good feel for the person I am buying the item from. It also really depends on what your buying, a pile of shit 426 hemi Cuda might look like hell, but it is a goldmine, and I have had guys want to trade me their S-10 trucks that they put $50,000 into, sorry its still an S-10 that holds no value.
Streetrodder007 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Port Huron, Michigan Charter Member since April 2006
 
Posted by 29robert  -  11/23/2006 05:09 PM
Good job Leon.
29robert [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] La Verne, California Charter Member since November 2004
 
Posted by q1ap  -  11/23/2006 09:34 AM
pre 111 I think I read in the previous thread that you're in the computer business, with your background you should be able to post some pictures of the "defects" in Nova. Lets see what your talking about. Hope you both can work this out. Peace!
q1ap [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] St. Augustine, Florida
 
Posted by pre111  -  11/23/2006 08:45 AM
Hey





I spoke to Don Schneidt 5 or 6 times on the phone about the nova and also read the thread he did on the car in this forum were he states the car was perfect.

and all his friends kissing his butt i thought the guy was ok too deal with.





Besides all the problems with the crap workmanship

he sends me a SALVAGED title and he told me on the phone

that the car had a clear title.





Here in Florida with that SALVAGED title the car is SCRAP

and can not be registered or get Tags





He has broken the law.He will pay we have already heard back from The Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddards office.





Scam 2 – Failing to Disclose Salvage/Rebuilt History of Vehicle.


A salvaged and/or rebuilt vehicle is one that has been damaged so severely that the insurance company of the previous owner of the vehicle considered it a total loss. That is, it was severely damaged. Insurance companies will then take the vehicle and have it rebuilt and restructured, however, rarely if ever is the vehicle restored to a safe condition. To that end, every state has a law regarding the disclosure of the salvaged history on the title of the vehicle (known as a “branded title”) and requires that certain notification of that history be given to the potential consumer in writing before the actual sale of the vehicle. Any failure to disclose a salvage or rebuilt history is a violation of law.
pre111 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] floral City, Florida
 
Posted by pre111  -  11/23/2006 10:14 AM
Leon





I would be happy to agree to everything you have said






Pics coming this afternoon


Glen
pre111 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] floral City, Florida
 
Posted by 40Tudor  -  11/23/2006 09:41 AM
I'm still very curious. We still haven't seen any pictures, but talk is cheap; and as they say a picture is worth a thousand words.
David 4Acre [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Charter Member since December 2005
 
Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  11/22/2006 01:53 PM
and folks wonder why it cost more to have one built. it's cheaper than taking a bath on a good deal and spending way more fixing it. cheaper aint always better.
dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003
 
Posted by REBORN55  -  11/23/2006 10:24 AM
Amen Leon
Ken [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] De soto, Illinois
 
Posted by amy14760yahoocom  -  11/22/2006 01:28 PM
i will take full responsability for the trade i made of a done 47 chevy pickup truck for my current 53 plymouth 2 dr wagon i seen this car of a web sight ad that i instantly knew i wanted it i do like cars that are different then most others out there called the dealer with a trade and a money amount he said he would give me 5 work days to gather the money differense up which i did called him 3 days later he then informed me car was sold went to kentucky no problem car came up for sale again year later of course i called the price almost doubled said hell with it forgot about the car then you guessed it car came up for sale by a owner not the dealer that had it still wanting the car i call the guy he is really not interested in any trades but asked me to send pictures of my truck he would post with his friends he calls me and said lets trade just bring me the truck from ny to kentucky 550 miles got there car looks great he gave me papers of all the work done sinse built low miles yea right got car home smoked bad low power i thought tune up no way pulled motor out to find 2 different types of pistons bad cam etc etc the frame rearend and even the tranny all had been smoothed before painting but the ng still was rough with all the casting spots that had been cleanned off other parts the moral of the story it was what i wanted i got way ahead of my self with excitment i still love the car i know it wasnt the owners fault some dealer knew it was a high dollar motor and decided to rob it before sale lesson learned dont be in any hurry look things over just because it has a bogges machine shop paper work dont mean thats what your getting beware guys and gals bob in ny
amy14760yahoocom [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] allegany, New York Charter Member since July 2005
 
Posted by Rods & Customs by Leon  -  11/23/2006 10:01 AM
With that being said I must include this, Based on the year modle, type of car and the date of the insurance claim.



Depending on the date of the claim and the condition of the car it wouldn't take but minimal damage to cause an insurance co. to total a 60s modle car, especially in CA. CA has been known to force Insurance Co.s to remove pre smog cars from the road for little or no reasons.



First of all let me say Im not taking anyones side on this issue



Glen, As we discussed on the phone, You have fault in this for buying sight un-seen and Don has fault in Non Disclosurer. So to rectify this I offered to help you with the title, So with that being fixxed the remaining issues lies with your lack of research.



So I have a suggestion that may resolve everything. If Don will step up and take responsability for the title work. You can step down and take responsability for your means of buying the car. Issue resolved with no Lawyers, and we don't have to keep this BS up.....Fix it and move on.



I would still like to see pictures
Rods & Customs by Leon [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Highlands, Texas Charter Member since May 2004
 
Posted by 31tudor  -  11/24/2006 10:31 AM

Standing ovation for Leon!
Eric Hibbs [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] St. George, Utah Charter Member since January 2002
 
Posted by brian41chevy  -  11/23/2006 11:32 AM
Leon for President :-) There you have it, a simple way to put this thing to rest.
There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] New Lenox, Illinois Charter Member since November 2004
 
Posted by da34guy  -  11/23/2006 11:50 AM
Just got off the phone with Leon and this problem is being put to bed never to wake up again. Thanx Leon
Don [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Prescott, Arizona Charter Member since October 2001
 
Posted by pre111  -  11/23/2006 01:02 PM
Thank You Leon
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