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Posted: August 20 2008 05:31 PM
 
KEN COPE (aka rat fink) [ View ] [ hotrodderken@gmail.com ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ]
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Okay.......maybe SOME of you think I am the "Bacon Wrinkler"......and maybe this topic is really stirrin up the bees....but.....what do you guys think about teachers in Texas having guns at school ? !...are things REALLY that bad in Texas?
 
 
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Posted by dixie  -  08/20/2008 05:54 PM
hey texas is way ahead of everyone else,have to keep order in the class room. wanna talk about texas ask Shine.
jim grace [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dade city, Florida Charter Member since January 2006
 
Posted by 29robert  -  08/20/2008 06:08 PM
Don't think it's all teachers all over Texas. It's only one small area without a local sheriff. Right? Hell, when I was in the 8th grade, I had a 70 year old history teacher who was a menber of the D.A.R. and would knock ya out of your seat with the back of her hand. She probably was packin as well!!!!
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Posted by reneg8d  -  08/20/2008 07:05 PM
I teach High School. I'm about 5'10" @ 245. I wouldn't wanna wade in between 2 boys over 6ft and 300Lbs each... Almost happened this am in the hallway.. Either a sidearm or a good Louisville slugger before that happens...
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Posted by hotrodgene  -  08/20/2008 07:10 PM
I would worry more about the student breaking in to car and stealing the gun or over powering the teacher and taking gun.
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Posted by cr55  -  08/20/2008 08:02 PM
As bad and hard as teachers have it, they should all be allowed to pack a pistol! Kids today have not one shred of respect for any one in authority, especially teachers. I remember when I went to school we were all afraid of the teachers. Not today! When my oldest was in junior high a parent came to school and punched out the teacher because he didn't like what the teacher said to his spoiled little boy the day before. Great role model huh? I took my share of whacks from the teachers and I deserved every one of them! Too bad they can't do it today. I'll bet school would be a lot different now if they could. I'm 6foot 2 and I'm small compared to some of the kids today.

How would you like to be threatened by a couple of them? I get fired up thinking how schools have to take the abuse today or else get sued by little bobo's parents because he was traumatized!!


Didn't mean to rant............................CR
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Posted by 41 Kustom  -  08/20/2008 08:17 PM
If the kids hav e them, then the teachers should to. Kids today have no respect for anyone,and thats the way parents raised them. If they were raised like us,(Im 59) you would'nt have all this shit going on.
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Posted by sellersrodshop  -  08/21/2008 12:09 AM
thats the problem... the parents AREN'T raising them . too many are sitting back thinking it's the gov't or schools job to raise them. i believe every law abiding citizen should apply for a concealed carry permit (where applicable) & carry faithfully. i treat mine like the old american express card, "don't leave home without it..." funny thing is, my grandparents were teachers in rural tn back in the 30's & they carried pistols to class every day. i see no problem with carrying one in the classroom now. look how many lives might have been saved in the columbine shooting if teachers were armed & fought back. first of all, if the offenders knew there were armed teachers , they probably wouldn't have carried out the plan in the first place.
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Posted by APLUS  -  08/21/2008 12:38 AM
I know exactly what reneg8d is talking about when he said he wouldn't want to jump in between a 2 "boys" fighting. A friend of mind worked in maintenace at a high school (ex 82nd airborne) and decided to break up a fight and when he got between them about 10 "boys" jumped him and put him in the hospital. This happened about 10 years ago and I'm sure things haven't changed much since then. Of course he was told that it was his fault because it wasn't his "place" to try and break the fight up. Yep, things have changed since I was in school.
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Posted by 31tudor  -  08/21/2008 01:14 AM
There's a name for unarmed citizens, I call them "victims".
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Posted by BigAlBre  -  08/21/2008 04:57 AM
AK47's would be more effective and a hell of a lot more intimidating of course I'm kidding.....
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Posted by LBEE  -  08/21/2008 07:55 AM
IN MISSOURI,TEACHERS CAN STILL SPANK THOSE LITTLE DARLINS, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THOSE DAYS WHEN KIDS RESPECTED TEACHERS & PARENTS. THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING NOW I THINK THOSE DAYS ARE GONE FOREVER.
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Posted by tlp1968  -  08/21/2008 09:20 AM
I think the problem is the parents. I have a 10 and a 9 year old and my little darlings know that if the teacher calls me....you are in for it. Too many parents think their kids acting up in elementary school is cute and by the time they reach high school "Forget It" I am still worried about where I will send my well behaved kids for high school. I say give the teachers any tools necessary to keep my kid and themselves safe, but lets throw out any kid with a 3 strikes rule. If the parents think they are so wonderful- they can keep them at their house all day! (Wow that rant felt good!!!)
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Posted by reneg8d  -  08/21/2008 04:04 PM
Thanks Tammy. If more parents felt like you, things might not be so bad... Might have helped that kid in Tennessee this am....
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Posted by screw  -  08/21/2008 04:44 PM
UNBELIEVEABLE, ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVEABLE. The fact that a teacher in a small town school needs to pack a sidearm while teaching his class is just not right . Tammy is right on the money. It's the PARENTS of these little smart ass rodents that need a good beatn'. People over the years have gotten too soft when it comes to disciplining a child. They believe that a mear spanking is as bad as murder or something. There is a definate line between discipline and abuse but most people don't know where to draw that line so they've gone to the Non-violent side of things a little too far. I feel that corporal punishment should be brought back into the schools and maybe bring back THE DRAFT, and parents need to own up to the responsibility of raising their kids instead of blaming the govt. and the teachers.
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Posted by 31tudor  -  08/21/2008 05:09 PM
EXACTLY SCREW!!! I don't know about anyone else, but the kids I know who are the very worst behaved and seem to be our future prison inmates all belong either to people who are afraid to discipline their children, or much worse... FAMILY COUNSELORS!!!!


I know there are exceptions but each family counselor I've ever met --who had children of their own-- had the worst kids in the neighborhood/school/church/whatever!


Does this call for some sort of examination of how so-called "experts" tell society how to raise their children? I sure as hell think so! We know society progressively gets better and progressively gets worse. Seems we're nearing a time when things will be heavily polarized; miracle medicines and rotten-to-the-core people. Never mind, we're there.


Good thing we have fellow street rodders!
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Posted by orphans2  -  08/21/2008 05:43 PM
A pistol wouldn't help in some of our intercity schools in Baltimore. Some of the teenage drug runners are carrying Mac 10's. If the teacher had a Glock it had better have a damn long clip.

There are schools every place with bad kids. Maybe we should be seperating the losers from the learners. Then the need for armed teachers would diminsh.
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Posted by flagator79  -  08/21/2008 06:03 PM
Eric, you are painting with a very wide brush my friend. I have been involved in training teachers for 43 years, including guidance counselors and school counselors. As a matter of fact, my daughter is a school counselor and I am extremely proud of her. She, by the way, has a fantastically well mannered daughter - my Addison Lee - I am her PaPa. But back on track, counselors are allowed to do only what they are allowed to do by the principal, the superintendent, the system and the damned ACLU. Teachers are no longer respected as professionals (some dont deserve to be cause they aren't) but the vast majority have a horrendous job to do. The legal system has tied the hands of the systems as well and many of the trouble makers come from homes whose parents behaved exactly the same way they did and nothing was done to them either. The welfare system in America is breaking our backs as well - encouraging illegitimate children, paying one parent families more than the nuclear family and not dealing with the good behaviors in a logical way and refusing to tolerate inappropriate, non-acceptable and destructive behaviors as they should be handled - there are rules, if you do not comply with them, you are dismissed from the system. Punishing children who want to learn by tolerating the crap behavior of those who have no intention of making anything out of their lives and sucking off of you and I is unconstitutional and discriminatory. BUT, the damned politicians will not take a stand cause "baby sitting" these thugs will get them elected the next time around. The schools are a battle zone and the kids and teachers and society that is getting hurt is the one that gives a damn and contributes to the betterment of our nation. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE!!?? Schools are paid for by tax dollars - our tax dollars. I assure you when the parents of these bums who just disrupt are told to go home, their parents (I use the term loosely) come to the school board meeting, yell and become abusive, and get their way but, we, the civilized society, do essentially nothing when we are told by the ACLU that we can't pray in our schools, can't distribute Bibles and yet we can, and they do distribute condoms and are sent to detention when they get in a fight with another child or teacher. Sorry - there is so much to do and we aren't standing up and disallowing this crap. FISH OR CUT BAIT AMERICA!! OUR CHILDREN ARE BEING DAMAGED BY THOSE WHO WILL DO NOTHING BUT TAKE FROM OUR SOCIETY>
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Posted by cr55  -  08/21/2008 06:22 PM
Can't do it Orphans.. It's against their constitutional Rights!!!!CR
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Posted by aroldfut  -  08/21/2008 07:18 PM
Liberal 'softies' and ACLU lawsuits have allowed student behavior and lack of respect for ANY authority to deteriorate to the current levels. If we maintained discipline like in the 'old-days' (when I was a student), you got paddled on a first offense, expelled on a second offense, and forbidden from returning to the same school on the third offense. If you repeated somewhere else and you were 16 or older, you got to go see a judge who gave you two options...Army or Marines. Maybe guns are over the top, but cattle prods will get their attention.
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Posted by ricko777  -  08/21/2008 07:41 PM
Well Said skeet!!
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Posted by amswuod1  -  08/21/2008 08:52 PM
Just think, this is only the third generation of welfare kids. What will the fourth be like?

Remember New Orleans after Katrina?

I could rant on this for hours, but don't think many of todays problem kids will be future rodders either.



Bob D.
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Posted by APLUS  -  08/21/2008 08:54 PM
Darn Skeet, if you run for some type of educational office you'll sure have my vote.
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Posted by plwheelie  -  08/21/2008 10:27 PM
The fear that others of authority might be packing is a BIG detierant. Punks aren't so brave if they think there is a chance they don't have the upper hand.

Paul
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Posted by iajonesy  -  08/21/2008 11:15 PM
This topic puts me in an ugly mood. Here's a real life example of what's wrong with some schools. My sister is a teacher and coach and has been for 20 years. She taught at a working class school near Peoria,Ill. until 2 years ago when she and her husband moved to South Carolina. With her great credentials, she was hired by a very nice large school district right away. At the end of the first grading period over 50% of her students were failing to read at a5th grade level, these were high school sophomores!!! She worked her tail off to help these kids on her own time and with her own money,but they didn't see the need to come in early or stay late to improve their grades. By the end of the year the failure rate was about the same and many of these kids were going to be taking this class over again next year. Then in steps the administration to tell my sister that there would be NO failing grades handed out. Sis went to the school board with her concerns about this and was told that if SHE did not pass these students She would not have a contract offer for the next school year. My sister stuck to her guns and gave the students the grades they had earned and she was promptly fired. It's no wonder South Carolina has a 50% drop-out rate. We have lost sight of what's right and what's wrong in this country starting at the top and all the way down to the man on the street. It's time right thinking people took back OUR country,kicked out do-nothing polititions,judges,ACLU lawyers,insurance rip offs,dirty cops,city officials and all the other deadbeats out there that seem to think it's a God given right to be a burden on society and to wait for a hand out in stead of helping themselves up.
Sorry for the rant, but like I said,this kind of thing burns my butt.

Mike
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Posted by rat fink  -  08/22/2008 01:47 AM
Hey Mike.......quite a story !!........I feel sorry for your sister.......she sounds like a real stand-up woman !!.......if there was more teachers that felt that way......well maybe there wouldnt be such a mess......South Carolina should be ashamed of its self !!....what ever state it is ...theses kids are the future......thank goodness for the internet !......or stories such as this....are never heard !.....Ken......PS......when I went to school.......you could get thrown out for carrying a water pistol.....never mind a real one !!hmmmmmm....theres a good idea !......maybe they should hand out squirt guns at schools ?!!
KEN COPE [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] RIGA, LATVIA, Other Charter Member since March 2008
 
Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  08/22/2008 07:31 AM
the school in question is on the hwy. these steps were taken to protect the kids and teachers from intruders off the hwy. next time read the whole story . i wish it were state wide and mandatory for teachers to pack heat. this is texas , we dont screw around here or listen to bleeding heart gun haters. we have an express lane for death row . ray willey hubbard has a new song on his latest album that pretty much suns it up. track 11 .

one thing for certain is folks in texas really dont care what anyone else thinks about what we do.


guns dont kill bad people................. texans do .
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