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Pat Thompson (aka oilmanpat) [ View ] [ oilmanpat@yahoo.com ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ] Warsaw, Illinois

Did anyone see our wonderful president on the news tonight? He said that our economy is doing fine. Am I missing something or does he now live in a different country that us?

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Posted by DaveHughes  -  07/15/2008 10:12 PM Dont get me started on this one Pat.lol I have wondered that for few years now....the one I like better than that is Bernanke said " high energy and oil prices seem to be a large part in the poor economy" DUUUUUUH!! I dont know what they are paying him but I coulda told you that 2 years ago and I am dumber than a stump.... DaveHughes [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] seaman, Ohio   Posted by Starfire  -  07/16/2008 12:43 AM Dave you have to remember you're talking about people that would make a sack of dog food look like a genius and are in a state of denial. Starfire [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Weimar, Texas   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/16/2008 07:32 AM lets see. the dollar has tanked so the alligator shoes switch to oil , bush did it .we cant drill for our own oil. yeah bush did that too. dumb ass people buy houses they cant afford, yeah bush did that too. us car makers cant build anything worth having , yep bush did that too. people want to commute 100 miles a day, bush made them do it. i believe ole Phil was right. dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by artie  -  07/16/2008 07:39 AM Shine you forgot katrina. Oh and the flooding in the mid-west. I saw Bush seeding the clouds. artie [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] ozark, Missouri   Posted by bigdude  -  07/16/2008 08:03 AM Anybody that replaces him has got to be better! What a JACKASS! resident know it all [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Three Rivers, Michigan Charter Member since January 2004   Posted by 50pickup  -  07/16/2008 09:05 AM You guys forgot to mention global warming, Bush caused that too, and that's the root cause of everything else previously mentioned! LOL. Sure is nice to have a Pres. who has good family values and sticks to his guns though. He still has 3 times better approval rating than the Dem congress! There, I've stirred it some! Haha! 50pickup [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] POTTERVILLE, Michigan   Posted by hotrodgene  -  07/16/2008 09:29 AM Like Father like Son,both belong in Hell. Gene Riffe [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Saint Petersburg, Florida   Posted by blksheep  -  07/16/2008 09:48 AM WHOOOOAA,....................... Let's just take a minute here and look at this from our President's perspective. It's 2009, your about to retire from the most powerful position in the world with a lifetime pension and your family is major player in the U.S. oil industry. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM???????????? blksheep...in Charlotte blksheep [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Charlotte, North Carolina   Posted by Starfire  -  07/16/2008 09:53 AM Hey bigdude isn't that comparison being a bit harsh on the noble Donkeys of this great Country? (grin) Starfire [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Weimar, Texas   Posted by grant6s  -  07/16/2008 02:13 PM global warming is a myth. it's called evolution, without it we would still have dinosaur's and cavemen running around. grant6s [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Washington, New Jersey   Posted by johns56  -  07/16/2008 02:49 PM just like to remind you on the left that al gore is also a major player in the oil biz. and before you blame bush for the high cost of oi remember it was clinton who vetoed drilling in anwar 10 years ago and it is the dem congress who is preventing it now and their solution to the problem is more taxes on oil. johns56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] phoenix, Arizona   Posted by Mike52  -  07/16/2008 02:53 PM This is my opinion only, I've always believed that the President and those on Capital Hill live in a different world than the 'regular' people of this country. How can they really see the effects of gas prices when they don't pull into the pumps to fill up like we do, they are chauffeured or flown everywhere. How can they see the effects of high grocery bills when they don't shop for food? I would bet that almost everything they spend goes on an 'expense account' and we, the American people paid their bills. Medical expenses, forget it, they've got the absolute best insurance that OUR money can buy, and they can afford to go to the best Doctors. They are soooo out of touch with the common people it's ridiculous. They don't have a clue about the middle class American people or those even less fortunate. Mike52 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Lutz, Florida   Posted by Starfire  -  07/16/2008 02:58 PM There is plenty of "blame" to go around, starting with each of us. Let's not let these forums become a place of political accusation and argument. Poking a little fun at either party quickly turns sour and hostilities erupt. We really don't need that sort of thing. Starfire [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Weimar, Texas   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/16/2008 03:16 PM this is the general forum. where else you gonna talk about it. the two parties do little more than bitch and moan about the president. first clinton , now bush yada yada same old crap. IT AINT THE PRESIDENT ! it's the worthless congress that has blocked oil exploration in this country since the early 80's. i liked bill clinton until he gave in to them and signed off on it. tree huggers have damn near ruined this country. ever wonder why all the damn protesters aint at work ? dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by primed34  -  07/16/2008 03:26 PM What makes people think that oil drilled here either off shore or in Alaska in going to be used here? Once the oil companies have it, they can ship it anywhere. primed34 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Paris, (unknown state)   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/16/2008 03:32 PM oil is a commodity , it is bought and sold on wall street. why do you think the price goes up and down? it is supply and demand. dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by Starfire  -  07/16/2008 03:45 PM It really wouldn't be making a major difference today had "drilling" in what is referenced as the ANWR been allowed. The conditions, both geographic and climatic, are even more challenging than Prudhoe Bay. Even more challenging is getting a pipeline built to a coastal terminal. If Congress were to pass legislation today allowing drilling in the ANWR it would be years and years before one drop of oil would come from there and candidly it is just not economical to drill there unless oil remains at $140 or higher a barrel. Drilling in the ANWR is not an answer for today's distress at the pump. There is no immediate answer beyond more prudent usage. Starfire [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Weimar, Texas   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/16/2008 03:45 PM so lets just keep waiting to start ????? congress could have done this in the 70's or the 80's or the 90's. oil futures is what is doing it. you open up drilling and they wont look so good anymore. it is not big oil or bush doing it. it is investment funds buying up the futures. just like the hunt brothers tried to do with silver. dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by Starfire  -  07/16/2008 03:55 PM The point is no one would be starting anything in the ANWR without a stabilized price per barrel of $140 or more. It would cost roughly half a billion just to bring in a well of unknown production quantity in the ANWR, same is true with a great part of the offshore prospects. Our best bet thirty years ago would have been to developing more fuel efficient transportation in order to reduce consumption. We would have been very wise to have been focusing on passenger rail, both long distant and commuter, rather than just pouring more concrete. We chose not to do that because we might be inconvenienced by not jumping into our personal vehicle all by ourselves to go to work. As it is the only inconvenience is 20 or 30 miles of freeway twice a day that takes an hour to cover each way. Somehow that just doesn't seem to be a very wise trade off when thought about for more than 2 seconds. Starfire [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Weimar, Texas   Posted by fitzwell   -  07/16/2008 04:06 PM drill all ya want. we haven't built a refinery in the us since the early 70's normal?? Normal is a cycle on a washing machine [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] benbrook, Texas   Posted by DaveHughes  -  07/16/2008 04:15 PM it is a fact-- If you regulate speculation on oil -the price at the pump will drop by 2.00 in less than 30 days..Now is this really hard to figure out how to fix the gas prices?? fix it and the economy will fall in behind it..you can have oil coming out of your water faucet and if the rich control the price of it it wont matter..Drill all you want, it wont help anything..Now i am done...so dog me all you want... DaveHughes [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] seaman, Ohio   Posted by orphans2  -  07/16/2008 04:31 PM Build the refineries, drill for oil, build 100 more nuke plants, and duct tape the tree hugger's mouths and nail 'em to a tree. Then the world will be right. ;-) Oh, yeah and let's put Obama in the Oval office with a few hundred of his best friends on the federal payroll and call it Enpowerment. Time to go live in the woods I think. LOL orphans2 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Stewartstown, Pennsylvannia Charter Member since November 2001   Posted by Starfire  -  07/16/2008 04:32 PM It's also a fact that we in this country cannot regulate speculation in commodity markets outside of the United States. What we might do is regulate ourselves out of anything but domestically produced oil which amounts to only about 25% of our daily consumption. Wouldn't that be a fine kettle of fish! It's also a fact we have exported our love of freeway systems and the individual ownership of the automobile to China and India. Ford, GM, and others have been quite eager to jump on building plants to produce automobiles to fill those freeways and all the while worldwide consumption of petroleum goes up, and up, and up. And so goes the price of a barrel of oil. Starfire [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Weimar, Texas   Posted by 50pickup  -  07/16/2008 04:46 PM We buy 70% of our oil overseas and Canada. It is insane to keep sending billions to unstable arab nations everyyear. That's like outsourcing thousands of jobs, that the Dems always cry about....and they are the ones responsible for it! Oil prices are based on speculation of future supply. Increase future supply and oil will come down. It doesn't matter if it comes down today! We have to start cutting our dependancy on foreigners NOW to have any affect later on. LOOK down the road-PLEASE! We have been working toward alternate energy sources & tech. throughout Bush's term, (remember ethanol? wind farms? solar?) but even that is way, way, way down the road! In the meantime we need a better supply of oil. And accept that we will NEVER be free of oil! I gotta go work on the sail for my 4x4 50pickup [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] POTTERVILLE, Michigan   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/16/2008 04:47 PM oil dropped like a rock just because of a slight increase in supply and less demand. orphans2 , i'm already in the woods dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/16/2008 05:02 PM t boone pickens for president !!!!!! dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by fitzwell   -  07/16/2008 05:19 PM Shine for prez....T Boone for vp normal?? Normal is a cycle on a washing machine [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] benbrook, Texas   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/16/2008 05:24 PM i'd drill a well in a caribou's butt and use al gore for packing. dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by bigdude  -  07/16/2008 05:29 PM I say we bend congress over a fence and field break em allOl Bear can clean up the mess with his damned windex! resident know it all [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Three Rivers, Michigan Charter Member since January 2004   Posted by sloper38  -  07/16/2008 07:14 PM I thought this was a car site? I'm X38 on any other sites. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Sydney, Australia   Posted by bigdude  -  07/16/2008 08:05 PM If all we talk about is cars it would be real boring. resident know it all [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Three Rivers, Michigan Charter Member since January 2004   Posted by amswuod1  -  07/16/2008 09:57 PM Lessee, by the time we will be allowed to drill for "our" natural resource in Alaska, what with all the global "warming" that area will be a desert and we can pack it out on camels!! Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Union, Kentucky Charter Member since July 2006   Posted by aosborn  -  07/16/2008 11:25 PM I am sure glad that in none of the days, weeks, months and now years since 9/11 we didn't have "leaders" like Al Gore or John Kerry at the wheel...and I hope that for our country's security, we get McCain over Obama in 08! The only thing Obama is going to change is his mind! aosborn [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Olympia, Washington   Posted by Starfire  -  07/17/2008 12:51 AM Hate to blow your bubble, but we are not one bit more secure than we were 50 years ago. So long as the drug trafficker guys willfully penetrate our boarders daily and illegals continue to find their way easily into the country there will always be the threat of terrorists. Add to that the prospect of "home grown" terrorists and all the money we are spending to make travel a pain in the butt for U.S. Citizen's, it makes all the domestic security nonsense since 9/11 really nothing but a costly, politically correct, bad joke. Starfire [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Weimar, Texas   Posted by cr55  -  07/17/2008 08:07 AM I agree with Big Dude. The fence!!! And let Ol Bear clean up with Windex. Couldn't hurt, Might help!...............CR I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by RSLUGGOBOY  -  07/17/2008 10:02 AM O POOR ME, THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON HARD WORK, SO QUIT BITCHING AND GET BACK TO WORK. GOD BLESS AMERICA. RSLUGGOBOY [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] SALINAS, California   Posted by 50pickup  -  07/17/2008 12:56 PM Yeah let's get back to work...there are a lot of people with their hands-out, who depend on us old fashion types. 50pickup [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] POTTERVILLE, Michigan   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  07/17/2008 03:41 PM hanoi maines does not speak for the people of texas. around here they still dont play the fat hags music A3 . dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by robymarks  -  07/17/2008 04:11 PM I wish somebody could tell me why they think the President can control the price of oil. If they drill in Alaska they can sell it anywhere they want? With the 2 major oil companies producing a total 4% of US needs and buying oil on the spot market to make enough gasoline, why would they sell it anywhere else? robymarks [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Houston, Texas Charter Member since October 2005   Posted by rat fink  -  07/19/2008 06:31 AM Hey, Rodders !........I may have missed the explanation but.......do any of you guys know what happened to the 2 tons of cash that disappeared in Iraq sometime back ? KEN COPE [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] RIGA, LATVIA, Other Charter Member since March 2008

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