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BigAl Breland (aka BigAlBre) [ View ] [ bigalbre ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ] St Pete Beach, Florida (866) 787-6337  Big Al sittin back in paradise.

One of the guy's at the shop offered me his edelbrock to try on my engine... we set it on and never touched anything and the car ran perectly... he wanted to keep the carb so yesterday I bought a new 600 cfm edelbrock with electric choke... put it on and all my toubles went away.... so I have a new holley with a blown power valve (....anything that sensitive is not for me)...for sale for $150... the edelbrock cost me $300... you guys can debate holley versus edelbrock all you want.... I know what worked for me without touching timing on anything and I now have 22 inches of vaccum....all I have to do now is rework the linkage and the atv kickdown to the 2004R....

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Posted by tlp1968  -  05/19/2008 10:16 AM I can surely find a buyer but I have a feeling it is too small for most of the guys I run with. Isn't it a 600 CFM? StreetRodding.com Marketing Director [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Springfield,, Illinois Charter Member since August 2003   Posted by srodder39  -  05/19/2008 10:21 AM You may want to add the holley bracket that will correct the geometry for the atv cable for the 200R. This will prevent premature trans failure. srodder39 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] santa fe, Texas   Posted by bigdude  -  05/19/2008 10:43 AM Trans depot in hudson fl have those resident know it all [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Three Rivers, Michigan Charter Member since January 2004   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 11:04 AM if a motor is timed and does not back fire you cant blow a power valve. plus new holleys are designed to prevent this. where did you get it ? should have yelled al. i have several edlebrocks laying in the corner. dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by dixie  -  05/19/2008 11:11 AM HEY AL I'LL MORE THAN LIKELY TAKE IT LET U KNOW LATER. LIKE SHINE SAID NEWER HOLLEYS WILL NOT BLOW POWER VALVE. jim grace [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dade city, Florida Charter Member since January 2006   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 11:19 AM i change out power valves several times before i get one tuned. never even take it off the engine. first clue was running fat and loss of low end power. dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by TYCHOOCHOO  -  05/19/2008 11:31 AM When I first got my car it had a holly on it and we couldn't get it to run right. I bought a 600cfm Edelbrock with electric choke and it worked fine except for gas perk until I put a fiber spacer under it and since then runs great. Tommy choo choo [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] MT. SINAI, New York Charter Member since June 2007   Posted by tlp1968  -  05/19/2008 11:42 AM Power valve blow out protection (check ball and spring) is also available for the older ones. You drill out the base plate (it comes with instructions) Remember Shine the price of metal is up so those old carbs can go to the recycler! StreetRodding.com Marketing Director [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Springfield,, Illinois Charter Member since August 2003   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 11:48 AM all i can tell you is a blown power valve is not the holley's fault . i personaly like the holley because of all the adjustment you can do. dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 12:12 PM Holleys SUCK! Got a shelf full of them. Put a Carter on one car and an Edelbrock on the other. End of all problems..Corvette ran faster with carter than with holley! ....................CR I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 12:16 PM well, papa always said you gotta be smarter than the equipment you trying to operate . dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by fitzwell   -  05/19/2008 12:45 PM Holley's suck Edelbrock's suck Fords suck Chevys suck Got a holley on everything i own that is carbureted. No Worries Edlebrock is a semi controlled fuel leak. Holley street avenger is a HUGe P.O.S. Get a 600 holley, learn how to tune it. Done. normal?? Normal is a cycle on a washing machine [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] benbrook, Texas   Posted by tlp1968  -  05/19/2008 01:01 PM Hey CR if you have old Holley's laying around I will help you clean up the shop. I will send you my address :-) All our cars have Holley's (bigger ones)and I never have to adjust, never have fuel leaking out, and they start up and fire every time. I have had the same used 750 Holley that I raced with on 3 different motors, only one rebuild (mostly just because it is easy to do)great investment for me. StreetRodding.com Marketing Director [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Springfield,, Illinois Charter Member since August 2003   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 01:30 PM Shine, was that a snub? I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 01:41 PM jest a natural fact what are yall gonna do when the edlebrock acts up ? dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 01:42 PM to each their own! I personally have had bad luck with just about all holleys. And I do know how to work and tune them. I just don't care to have them on my cars! I will admit from a racers standpoint they are better, but how much racing do you to with your streetrods? I like the reliability of carter and edelbrocks. I'll bet this opens up a can of worms LOL!..........CR I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 01:44 PM fix it! But it's been on the car for five years without a problem and it's my daily driver! I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 01:45 PM now wait a minute. if you know how to build and tune them why are you having bad luck dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 01:47 PM because they break faster than any other carb !!!!!! I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 01:49 PM here comes that can of worms!!!!! I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 01:50 PM well hell , dont drop'em and break'em dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 01:51 PM is that what I'm doing wrong?(grin) I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by tlp1968  -  05/19/2008 01:55 PM Sounds like different strokes for different folks. My husband was a carb rebuilder for about 15 years. He would tune in a Holley and never see the guy again. He could sometimes say that with the Idontidlebrock but when they didn't work they are a nightmare to get working. I would not tell anyone what to run. I had a daily driver with a Holley 780 Vac and drove it year round in the snow and everything and it never ever let me down. Matter of fact I still have that carb because it was an original off of a Chevelle as I remember. Numbers match for a 396 so I kept it. StreetRodding.com Marketing Director [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Springfield,, Illinois Charter Member since August 2003   Posted by fitzwell   -  05/19/2008 03:18 PM Reliability?? My 69 1/2 ton sits, some times for months at a time. I get in , hit the switch & off i go. Holley 600 Been on there for about 4 years now. The 46 can be driven 4-5 days a week, or sometimes sits for 3 weeks without being touched. Get in hit the switch & go. Seems reliable enough to me. now lets end this foolishness & get on to something we can discuss like mature adults & come to a reasonable conclusion. What kind of beer & who's buying normal?? Normal is a cycle on a washing machine [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] benbrook, Texas   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 03:29 PM Amen I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 03:33 PM my cars better than your car.............. my cars better than yours........... my cars better cause it's got a holley on it.......my cars better than yours .... dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by tlp1968  -  05/19/2008 03:45 PM LOL, LOL StreetRodding.com Marketing Director [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Springfield,, Illinois Charter Member since August 2003   Posted by DaveHughes  -  05/19/2008 03:56 PM You guys are all wrong! The rochester monojet is the only way to go for horsepower and reliability and I hear if you tune them right they will run on water..... DaveHughes [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] seaman, Ohio   Posted by hotrodgene  -  05/19/2008 04:11 PM If I had a good running car with a Holley I would get rid of it because I know a problem will happen .No Holley for me. Gene Riffe [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Saint Petersburg, Florida   Posted by bigdude  -  05/19/2008 04:47 PM Shine---you have a car??????? resident know it all [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Three Rivers, Michigan Charter Member since January 2004   Posted by Red's Place Custom & Restoration  -  05/19/2008 05:12 PM let me chain saw this can of worms and open it up wide, Have used both holleys, carter, elderbrock and all seem to be good rebuilt a many holley and all the others but now I just run some of this stuff see photo 550 horse, 24 to 26 mpg, 6 spd, 373 rear. Get the same out of some of the newer gm stuff, If it breaks or acts up plug it into the scanner and it will tell you what to fix. RED Red's Place Custom & Restoration [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Charlotte, North Carolina   Posted by glrchotrods  -  05/19/2008 05:21 PM My Holley days are over! glrchotrods [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Toledo, Ohio   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 05:34 PM My Edelbrock can beat up your Holley!!! I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by bigdude  -  05/19/2008 05:36 PM The new holleys are pretty much goof proof and are easy to readjust or tune. The edelbrock will work good out of the box,but are a pain to tune if they are running too rich-- and most are. resident know it all [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Three Rivers, Michigan Charter Member since January 2004   Posted by da34guy  -  05/19/2008 05:55 PM Ah Big Dude -- Ya finially hit it. Most guys complain that an edelbrock 600 cfm is too rich for their 350 and have trouble tuning it. That is where the problem lies- A 350cu. in. @ W.O.T. only needs 485 CFM (and who out there drives @ W.O.T. Ya can't tune for cfm The real trick is @ 500 cfm carb---I don't care if it's Holley, edelbrock, Carter or even a Holley 390.. Been usin 500 cfm carbs for years and never had a problem. Shine ---I think you'll agree, won't ya. Don [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Prescott, Arizona Charter Member since October 2001   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/19/2008 06:12 PM your edlebrock is a libertarian dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003   Posted by sloper38  -  05/19/2008 07:30 PM I like the new 97's I'm X38 on any other sites. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Sydney, Australia   Posted by ol bear  -  05/19/2008 07:44 PM YAWN,,,,,,,,,,, IM GOING TO NIBBLE A LIL STEEL WOOL AND HAVE A SHOT OF WINDEX ,MY 670 STREET AVENGER WORKS GREAT NOW THAT I TOOK THE SLACK OUT OF THE ACCEL PUMP.NOT .O15.... ZERO WORKS FOR ME ,, OL BEAR OL BEAR [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] crown point, Indiana   Posted by cr55  -  05/19/2008 07:47 PM Windex is the answer! I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by REBORN55  -  05/19/2008 08:39 PM I will still take a good running quadrajet anytime Ken [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] De soto, Illinois   Posted by BigAlBre  -  05/19/2008 09:06 PM I knew this would get everyone stirred up.... hehehehehe Big Al sittin back in paradise. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] St Pete Beach, Florida Charter Member since June 1999   Posted by reneg8d  -  05/20/2008 12:22 AM I'm gonna vote with Red on this one.... EFI is the way to go now... Just plug yer laptop in and set timing and fuel where you want them.. If it doesn't make you happy, keep doing the above til you are.... Just bought a new(to me) dodge with a Carter TQ... I'm gonna have fun tryin to make a 440 get close to 20mpg draggin all my stuff and a bunk and fridge along. The suspension is rated for 15K lbs.... and its 12 ft tall too ASE Master Auto Tech [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Thoreau, New Mexico Charter Member since July 2005   Posted by BigAlBre  -  05/20/2008 07:16 AM reneg8d I'd love to see some pics as I am interested in a rig like that to haul my 36 to shows and have a place to sleep and I have a 413 and tranny ) Big Al sittin back in paradise. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] St Pete Beach, Florida Charter Member since June 1999   Posted by jimmothershead  -  05/20/2008 08:36 AM Few months ago pulled the fat running Holley....went to Edelbrock.....superb. Pulled Bob's Barry Grant Demon......went to Edelbrock.....superb. Brack will only drink Miller Genuine Draft, Bob only drinks Coors Lite, Danny won't drink beer, Jim sez Bud is the real beer.... See yall at 35th Nats East next week. Jim [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Huntingtown, Maryland   Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/20/2008 08:57 AM