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Posted: May 07 2008 09:03 AM
 
bryant gorges (aka prost56) [ View ] [ Email ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ]
west seneca, New York

 prost56
 
check this out..lol....remember the big block starter problem??..well.....EVERY TIME...i hooked up the torque converter.thats when my problems started.....had it up in the air to do the flywheel,fired it up countlesss times,,,in the past..then i would hook up the t-converter would do the same thing again,grind..except this time i saved the flywheel from being terminated....so..out of curiosity? left the converter off...lowered the car.so it was on the ground....fired this this up 10-15-times now problem,,left it sit..did it again..no!!! problem.!!1pulled the pan of the trans...WELL..OMG!!! ...1/2 + of shavings in the bottom...looks as if the clutches in my 400 turbo are gone....soo. time to pull the trans..thought i would share this with yall..lol..
 
 
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Posted by cr55  -  05/07/2008 09:31 AM
I'm glad you finally got it straightened out Bryant. I know it can drive you crazy! ..............CR
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Posted by dixie  -  05/07/2008 11:46 AM
i do not understand this one,how does the tq have efect on starting.
jim grace [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dade city, Florida Charter Member since January 2006
 
Posted by 1932hiboy  -  05/07/2008 12:09 PM
Yea how does it?????????
1932hiboy [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Posted by cr55  -  05/07/2008 12:50 PM
I'm wondering if putting the convertor back on will cause extra strain that will affect the starter again.my 37 used to crank over really easy when we were just turning the engine over by itself. When it was all together is when I had starter problems!

......CR
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Posted by driver48  -  05/07/2008 08:14 PM
The joys of street rodding. Sometimes finding the problem is really rewarding, other times it is expensive.
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Posted by prost56  -  05/08/2008 08:02 AM
from what i can tell..the trans inside was worn out?..clutch bans....which would bind up the starter..more later..
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Posted by jimmothershead  -  05/08/2008 08:44 AM
Hello, 700R-4
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Posted by brian41chevy  -  05/08/2008 10:11 AM
I'm not following this. Is the noise comming from the trans or the starter? I've never heard of a bad trans keeping a car from starting.
There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] New Lenox, Illinois Charter Member since November 2004
 
Posted by dixie  -  05/08/2008 12:14 PM
it want till the tq spools up, want stop car from turing over think u have starter problem with a bad trans.
jim grace [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dade city, Florida Charter Member since January 2006
 
Posted by dakotah  -  05/08/2008 12:28 PM
Sounds likely that the torgue converter was not seated into the end of the crank pilot hole correctly,possibly some rust or junk there stopping it from going all the way in .That will cause the flywheel to flex out of shape(flex plate) when the TC bolts are tightened.Crank hole and pilot on Tc should be cleaned good befor install, and after install but before bolts are put in Tc should move freely and mate to flywheel.One other note there ,if eng. had a stick shift before there will be a pilot bearing or bushing in the crank that will need to be removed.Transmission can be siezed up tight and long as the TC is not granaded there should be no reason for the trans to cause a starter problem.
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Posted by brian41chevy  -  05/08/2008 01:44 PM
The pilot bushing is the only thing that makes sense here. If the engine had a manual trans attached to it and it was left in. That could jam the convertor up into the pump gears tighter than they should or warp the flywheel when you tighten the convertor up.
There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] New Lenox, Illinois Charter Member since November 2004
 
Posted by jgregory21  -  05/08/2008 02:31 PM
Or possible play in starter..My buddy had a '33 Ford Cpe. that had a 396ci chevy b.b. and he fought it for the lonest time. He said the play in starter was the problem. He had put 3 different P. M starters on, had a problem with to much play, and not working right. He went and got another brand starter, and end of problem. This guy was a machinest, and told P. M. at SRNats in Louiseville about it. and even showed them. Must have had a rookie doing work on them.
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Posted by prost56  -  05/08/2008 05:54 PM
huh...now u got me thinking again......ill see what happens when i switch trannys..by the way its a th400..very worn at that..
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Posted by brian41chevy  -  05/08/2008 06:16 PM
Bryant, make sure you check the back of the crank for a pilot bushing when you have the 400 out. Also check carefully for any cracks in the flex plate, especially around the bolt holes.
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