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Posted: May 04 2008 08:16 AM
 
Brian Misner (aka steelhorsefarms) [ View ] [ tmisner@wmis.net ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ]
White Cloud, Michigan
 
I have a 1933 dodge 4 door sedan that I would like to street rod and I assume that I need to start with the frontend and rearend componets?


What I have to work with.........

* solid stock frame

* I'm thinking of a 318 engine

* This would be a everyday driver

* Nothing to radical on the engine {would like to travel from state to state

*suggestions What differences would I encounter if I go with a Mustang II front or use my stock straight axle with the updated brake set up ?

* What type of rearend would I consider?


I have had this car since 1973, I ran it orignal for about 5 of those years and started complete disasemble about 20 years ago and then was put on the back burner going thru lifes ups and downs. Now I'm on a mission to complete my dream. I'm a green horn when it comes to the drive train up dates. I have alot of experience on restoring orginal equipment on past restores. I would like to read all of your inputs Good and bad ones.

Thanks again for your expert ideas
 
 
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/04/2008 09:10 AM
just be careful who you buy from. theres a bunch of copy cat junk out there made with cheap steel being sold . buy from a major supplier or go direct. the mll is the most copied set up out there.
dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003
 
Posted by 41 Kustom  -  05/04/2008 10:05 AM
I have a MII in 34 ply 4 door. I kept the stock suspention in the rear with a ford 9 inch. There are some 8 inch that will bolt right in, I don't know witch ones. If you are going to do a lot of traveling you have the car for it. My wife has a bad back and says my car dose't bother her a bit. It rides like a new one and has lots of room. You will really enjoy the car. Good luck. P.S. I think the straight axle will be kind of harsh, I've only rode in them, never ownd one.
41 Kustom [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Essex, Vermont
 
Posted by whipsold39  -  05/04/2008 10:09 AM
chassisengineeringinc.com They can fix you up on both ends. Call the tech# 319 643- 2655 they will assist youand help with the suggestions.
whipsold39 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] 400 9th ave silvis 61282, Illinois Charter Member since January 2006
 
Posted by DavyJ  -  05/04/2008 11:02 AM
nice heavy frame, easy to work with, like these guy's say, go for a brand name suspension package designed to fit your frame. The rear leaf springs should work fine, might need to be de-arched a bit to get the stance. put in a set of new style rear shock brackets and shocks. That 318 should be fine too.
Still driving the wife's car, cause I am slow. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Niagara Falls, Canada Charter Member since February 2005
 
Posted by scooting  -  05/04/2008 12:14 PM
If you don't already have the 318, take a look at a 340 or 360. Much more available and you spend the same on a rebuild with end result of more power and similar gas milage. Later if you need more scoot - easier to add to 340-360.


Friends Dad had 33 Dodge 4dr in Farmington, NM. 4 big guys used to go to lunch in style with the big Dodge. You will like it.
scooting [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Elkridge, Maryland
 
Posted by orphans2  -  05/04/2008 01:23 PM
I have a 34 Plymouth 2 door with a Progressive Automotive MII IFS and an 81 Vetter IRS with the transverse composite spring. Not a bad ride, not a real good one either. Comfort quotient reduced by a 4" chop. A 4 door should be much more comfortable especially for passengers. A firiend has one with a 360 and it is a great cruiser. His isn't chopped.
orphans2 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Stewartstown, Pennsylvannia Charter Member since November 2001
 
Posted by cr55  -  05/04/2008 01:36 PM
Check out Fat Man Fabrications. I have his front suspension, a mII, and his rear suspension. I am extremely satisfied with both. Have had the front mII for 18 years, no problems.

Everthing fit as it was supposed to. No surprises and a reasonable price.

Hope this helps you make a choice. Good luck with the Mopar.......CR
I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware
 
Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  05/04/2008 01:48 PM
fatman's cross member is a lot stronger than most.
dont poke the porchdog........he bites [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] BLUFF DALE, Texas Charter Member since March 2003
 
Posted by gman0046  -  05/04/2008 05:33 PM
Had a 33 Plymouth PD coupe with a Mustang ll and Nova rear end. It was one of the better driving streetrods I've owned. If you go with a M II forget the junk yard stuff. Go with a Heidts or Fatmans.
gman0046 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Anchorage, Kentucky
 
Posted by young mopar  -  05/05/2008 12:54 AM
ive got a 360 out of a 75 dodge rv with get this 55000 original miles 2barrel carb with electric distributer really clean engine
young mopar [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] waco, Texas
 
Posted by ahotrod33  -  05/05/2008 05:25 AM
A friend of mine has a 33 Plymoutn 4dr, Fatman's front, posies spring on rear with a 9". Rode horrible until he put the right length shocks in the rear, after he realized that was the problem. Since then it's a great riding car with a ton of miles. He's got the standard 350/350 combo for a drive train. Great car!
ahotrod33 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Glen Mills, Pennsylvannia Charter Member since June 2003
 
Posted by jimmothershead  -  05/05/2008 08:46 AM
Brian..did a '34 Plymouth all-door back in '78. Removed 2 shortest leaves, reversed main leaf, AMC disc brakes, Vega box, Maverick rear. Drove it to Nats South in Winston Salem. Met Tom Artuci. He and Bob Fetrone had just debuted a new kit for Mustang 2/Pinto. Got back to Maryland after almost 500 miles on the axel.......ordered MII kit from Tom. Picked it up at Nats East in Timonium = goodbye axels, hello independent front suspension.
TCI, Total Cost Involved MII kit is my favorite since 1980.
Jim sez so

Just remembered another.....big '34 Nash Brougham = fuel crunch time, '62 Cutlass aluminum odd-fire V-6, Powerglide. Removed 2 shortest leaves, reversed eyes, Saganaw box. New maroon paint, new mohair interior, new chrome...luxorod time. Sold it, guy drove it to Atlanta where he got busted in a drug sting. DEA ended up with it.
Jim [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Huntingtown, Maryland
 
Posted by jimmothershead  -  05/05/2008 08:52 AM
Shine...right on Brent's (Fat Man) IFS. Crossmember is the only 360 degree steel out there. Back in the day, Brent used too thin a guage metal for top had....clinch bolts allowed A arm to slip. Special Tee bolts had a shoulder deeper than plate. He did correct problem and did a recall. Fat Man is a great rodder.
Jim [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Huntingtown, Maryland
 
Posted by cr55  -  05/05/2008 11:50 AM
I seem to remember someone bad mouthing Fat Man Fabs a while back. I have nothing but good things to say about him and his business! I've had numerous conversations with him when having a rear suspension made. He was always pleasant and extremely helpful. I would recomend his product to anyone. He is always refining his front ends and the other equipment he manufactures. A true professional.......CR
I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware
 
Posted by hotrodgene  -  05/05/2008 09:20 PM
I had a 34 Ply.and it had a Fat Man front susp.and 8" rear and all worked great with no problems at all with align.I agree with others on 340 eng.
Gene Riffe [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Saint Petersburg, Florida
 
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