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bryant gorges (aka prost56) [ View ] [ prostreet1956@yahoo.com ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ] west seneca, New York  prost56

ok..here we go again..lol..got a powermaster 6000,worked like a charm,...UNTIL.....it got broken in...seams its not dis-engaging (slow) after it fires,,,shim??..were set a couple of thin ones from the box...any ideas??..

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Posted by prost56  -  04/01/2008 08:46 AM ohh..one more thing...in case yall forgot...big block 454 (468),168 tooth flywheel,etc.. prost56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] west seneca, New York   Posted by ol bear  -  04/01/2008 09:41 AM PULL THE STARTER OUT AND CHECK TO SEE WHAT THE PATTERN IS ,,JUST LIKE SETTING UP A REAR END GEAR ,, IF THE DRIVE GEAR ON THE STARTER SEEMS TO BE SETTING TO DEEP IN THE FLEXPLATE ,A SHIM OR TWO MAY HELP ,, WHILE YA HAVE IT OUT PUT SOME WHITE LITHIUM GREASE ON THE STARTER SHAFT ,, LES ,, AKA OL BEAR OL BEAR [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] crown point, Indiana   Posted by ForVette  -  04/01/2008 09:54 AM I too had numerous issues. Took out one shim, then another and finally ended up with three 1/64 shims and it's good now. I thought it was okay when it had zero shims, but that only lasted a few days and it started acting up again. ForVette [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Southaven, Mississippi   Posted by protruck69orange  -  04/01/2008 11:34 AM You may want to check, the starter to flywheel clearance at the high point of starter tooth to flywheel should be 1/8", Hope this helps protruck69orange [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] kountze, Texas   Posted by DavyJ  -  04/01/2008 05:50 PM get a 1/8 cotter pin, with the flywheel cover off the pin should just fit between the flywheel teeth and the shaft that the starter gear rides on. the shims are used to get his optimum fit. if your aftermarket starter has a slightly different web on the gear compared to stock you may have to increase that gap. Still driving the wife's car, cause I am slow. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Niagara Falls, Canada Charter Member since February 2005   Posted by prost56  -  04/01/2008 08:24 PM hey,,ol bear..ill be calln ya..bry prost56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] west seneca, New York   Posted by JoeP  -  04/01/2008 08:39 PM Go with a stock GM starter, GM also makes a mini starter if you need the room. I have had no luck with Powermaster starters. Joe [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Somerset, New Jersey   Posted by prost56  -  04/02/2008 09:07 AM i looked at a stock mine (reman) from advance auto...i thought powermaster was the best?..when i disconnect the hookup on the distributor (hot wire)..so it doesnt fire,turns over fine.(spins) and releases,,just when it FIRES,is were the problems start, prost56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] west seneca, New York   Posted by ol bear  -  04/02/2008 10:06 AM HEY BRY,,,GOOGLE ,,, SMALL BLOCK CHEVY VALVE ADJUSTMENT ,,ITS THE TOP ONE IN THE SEARCH ,, ALSO VIEW THE U TUBE VIDEO,, JUST SCROLL DOWM A LIL ,,,,,,LES AKA OL BEAR OL BEAR [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] crown point, Indiana   Posted by driver48  -  04/02/2008 09:03 PM I had the same problem but i was running an older 400 chevy. The older blocks ran standard starter bolts, newer style starters that most everyone is using these days are set up to use a metric bolt. There is just enough slop to cause a problem. I tapped the block and instlled new metric bolts and have had the starter on for about 3 years now. I drive the tires off the car. driver48 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] whiteland, Indiana   Posted by prost56  -  04/02/2008 10:17 PM metric??...wow..the bolts that came with the powermaster are standard..i think..or i should say i hope..ill give it more attention tomarrow...kid took his road test today..PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS..chip of the old block..so to speak..lol..tks all.. prost56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] west seneca, New York   Posted by ol bear  -  04/03/2008 08:56 AM DID YOU FIND A SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM?? LES AKA OL BEAR OL BEAR [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] crown point, Indiana   Posted by jimmothershead  -  04/03/2008 09:02 AM OEM........Jim said it. Jim [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Huntingtown, Maryland   Posted by JAWS  -  04/03/2008 09:56 AM yep An electrical headache can make a great car a pain [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Boise, Idaho Charter Member since August 2004   Posted by prost56  -  04/03/2008 09:49 PM the motor is a crate 454cid,30 over (468).O.E.M.would be a problem unless i ck what the engine #'s are..o; bear..no time yet..to many other stuff right now..will do probably fri,,and see..got the lith,stuff.mite do it.. prost56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] west seneca, New York   Posted by prost56  -  04/27/2008 06:43 PM looks as if were good.....put another flywheel,charged the battery,moved the battery back to the front of the car were it belongs,changed the grounds (to the frame,block),,fired up no problem..will see..lol,,never was much of an optimist when it comes to big blocks..lol..whats up ol.bear.. prost56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] west seneca, New York   Posted by cr55  -  04/27/2008 07:49 PM I had the same problem with a powermaster on and off for a couple of years. It started tearing up the teeth on the flywheel. Changed the flywheel once then it happened again! Against my better judgement I took the car to a local Speed shop/ garage and told him my situation. He kept the car and drilled and tapped a center hole in the starter. My starter has the staggered bolt holes. It seems the starter was flexing just a little bit. I could see it when you tried to turn the motor over. Never had that problem again and I've been putting starters on this small block for years. I've tried them all too. Factory chevy's ,Delco's, and a number of others. Might be worth a try!!! Or you can use OL Bear's windex technology..(grin) .....CR I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by jimmothershead  -  04/27/2008 09:10 PM OEM....again Jim [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Huntingtown, Maryland   Posted by prost56  -  04/28/2008 07:37 AM hey..cr...dont most blocks come with both??stagered and inline mounts??..mine does..the PM had the inline mount,seamed to do the trick...will see.. prost56 [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] west seneca, New York   Posted by jimmothershead  -  04/28/2008 08:46 AM Correct knurled bolts ? Jim [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Huntingtown, Maryland   Posted by cr55  -  04/28/2008 09:22 AM prost56, My block only had the staggered bolt holes. I wish it had both because the inline starters are a lot cheaper! I definitely had the correct bolts in mine. It also broke two of them off. All I know is the third bolt solved all of my problems, and it's been a little over a year now. I struggled with Starters for a lot of years before the last fix. As you know every time you take a street rod somewhere you will always draw a few lookers, and it seemed that every time my starter would grind and make all kinds of noises. Nothing more embarrassing. I'm sure this post will draw a lot of criticism, but all I know is that it worked! You can put all the shims you want in Place but they never worked very long for me. Hope this info helps you....................CR I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware   Posted by ronhotrod  -  04/28/2008 09:57 PM factory installed starters have a front bracket bolted to the starter case and attached to the block. That's what prevented the 'flexing' you guys encountered. Had a similar problem with my Chevy 468 until I put the bracket back on as the factory does. It doesn't move now ronhotrod [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] Mount washington, Kentucky Charter Member since July 2001   Posted by 37tin  -  04/28/2008 10:59 PM Yep,, front bracket,, often overlooked,, 37tin [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] langley, Canada   Posted by cr55  -  04/29/2008 07:55 AM Front bracket doesn't work with mini starters... I thought that I knew it all , but.. [ View ] [ Email ] [ Blogs ] [ Car Ads ] dover, Delaware

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