Prices on Hotrods. Are they nuts?
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Prices on Hotrods. Are they nuts?
Posted: February 18 2008 01:21 PM
 
J B (aka Corvette64) [ View ] [ mrbuckets_2000@yahoo.com ] [ Car Ads ] [ Blogs ]
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I look around the web at Ebay, this site and you know a few others, and the prices some people expect to get for their rides are just so unrealistic I've got to ask are y'all nuts? Who are these people the ones who bought their cars to pump and dump from the big auction houses? Who in their right mind is going to pay $90k for an all glass fenderless 32 roadster? Not me!!! I don't care how nice it is. I saw a 61 Impala bubbletop on another site and they are asking $49k. The tri 5 Chevy's are out of sight. Prices >$50k are not unheard of. Are they using these sites as some sort of perpetual car show? I just don't get it.


Oh by the way I'll take $55k for the vette and will deliver it anywhere in the country if anyones interested. LOL. Later guys
 
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Posted by cr55  -  02/18/2008 02:07 PM
it's almost funny when you see the prices isn't it? But it stops a lot of people from buying hot rods because you need to mortgage your home to do it! I guess I'm just old, but I remember when you could go out and buy a car to have fun with for only a small amount . Not any more! Thanks to Barrett Jackson and others everybody wants to become a millionaireby selling one car. They have hurt the sport. I can't understand anyone buying a car only to hide it in a garage never to be driven or seen by anyone.
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Posted by vendettaautofab  -  02/18/2008 03:09 PM
Sad thing is, people pay it. Guy here locally, came into my shop, talking about having a car, 33 coupe, highboy built. Two days later, he paid $71,000 for a fiberglass 33 highboy in PA....site unseen, YES, thats right, sight unseen. He used a guy he "trusts" to check it out, and tell him if it was worth it. The car may or may not be worth that, but my point is, even in this shitty economy, there are people out there with disposable income ALOT greater than most of us.
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Posted by amy14760yahoocom  -  02/18/2008 03:48 PM
jb i think we have all heard this one before with the final out come was if you want it and can pay for it get it . i see the car prices keep going up and up and i will agree with others that have said it is because of barret jacksons . my opinion also on that is the hotrod shows on tv foose , pimp my ride, and alot of others . they drive up the cost . for example your corvette is a high price toy that i would not even consider buying another one again but they say they hold there value though . it is alot of money to pay for something that also sits in the garage with premium insurance payments and when you drive them they are not the most comfotable ride like most street rods ride like . it is what the person likes and wants these day's bob in ny
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Posted by cr55  -  02/18/2008 04:18 PM
I agree with amy on both counts. Tv shows ,especially thecome with barry white are completly over the top on spending money to build a car and then when he auctions it !!! Also covettes are not the smoothest rides,but there's nothing like them!!!!
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Posted by dixie  -  02/18/2008 05:01 PM
JB ARE U NUTS 55 K FOR THAT VET, TELL U WHAT I'LL TRADE U A UGO LOADED EAVEN UP. WHAT YOU SAY?????????????????
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Posted by 29robert  -  02/18/2008 05:58 PM
The guys who purchase cars at B.J. or pay 70 to 100K to buy a car sight un-seen are in a different league from me and you know what? It doesn't bother me a bit. Its not real world to me. Who do ya blame? The guy who's askin too much for the car or the guy who pays too much for the car. I don't see how B.J. is having any affect on our hobby. The percentage of rods sold there is so small compared to the number or rods on the market nation wide. If a guy is askin too much for a car, nobody has to buy it. Its simply supply and demand. I think the reduced value for rods today (I think the average resale price is actually goin down) is simply because there are more cars out there than people who want them and, well, the economy. Its hard for me to get my pants in a bunch over prices since I'm building my car for myself and nobody else. Maybe if I were tryin to make a living off building cars like some on this site, I might feel differently. Just an OPINION - not necessarily fact.
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Posted by dwinspector21  -  02/18/2008 06:48 PM
You are exactly right 29 robert....If you don't like what somebody's asking for their ride...don't buy it! But by the same token don't hate on him for getting all the cash he can. If a man has 100k in a build and makes only a fair profit...boys and girls you're talkin 115-120k...it's all relative. Same deal if he has only 15-20k and tries to make the same 15% profit...it's all about how much you got in the build....think about it. I've got a family member who is a player at BJ....he's got more coin than I'll ever see, but, you know what, he worked for it and if he wants to take 20's and 100's and start a fire that's his business. I've always heard that you find a successful person and emulate his habits and maybe you'll be successful too. Hey JB how about 45k for the Vette? The inspector said that!
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Posted by Corvette64  -  02/18/2008 06:51 PM
Dixie

Better be careful those Yugo's are gettin hard to find my friend. I wouldn't want you to have seller remorse. LOL
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Posted by dixie  -  02/18/2008 06:59 PM
GREAT SCOTT I GUESS I BETTER KEEP IT THEN

,THINK I'LL START BRACKET RACING IT MAYBE I CAN MAKE SOME MONEY WITH IT.
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Posted by 37tin  -  02/18/2008 10:06 PM
Hey,,,,Dixie here's your dial in,,31.29 worked for me!! go show em how to do it..
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Posted by dixie  -  02/18/2008 10:28 PM
THINK IT WILL PULL ANY KINDA 60 FOOTER?
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Posted by orphans2  -  02/18/2008 10:33 PM
Dixie, I hear you can do an engine swap from the Yugo to the Chevelle. You might even be able to use the hi rise manifold on the Yugo engine. Just be careful with the washers. ;-)
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Posted by orphans2  -  02/18/2008 10:36 PM
It was once said "...a fool an his money are soon parted".. Still true today. There are some nice looking 32 hi boys out there for $28k to $35k. (couple in Streetscene this month). Why would anyone want to pay $50K , is beyond me. Unless they are getting a tax write off for the deal.
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Posted by Brickman  -  02/18/2008 10:42 PM
There may be a few factors, certianly which one is the ridiculous price for parts. Just getting a decent engine built that has some punch can be 5 or $6,000.00 dolars. Hard to rebuild a car for 50 k and then turn around and ask 15K for it without the wife carving big chunks out of your hindend! I do think that it will top out someday soon and then we will see what happens.
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Posted by ol bear  -  02/18/2008 11:39 PM
hey dix orphanz rubbin it in ,,with the washer comment lol ,,,,,,,,,,,,,ol bear shhhhhhhhhhhhh dont tell on me
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Posted by 37tin  -  02/19/2008 02:16 AM
Dixie Dixie,, I can tell your new to bracket racing a UGO, that is 60 feet!! 2feet a second,,, not bad!! I have a 4 door, I call it a WEGO.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/19/2008 07:11 AM
well ............ considering theres aprox 700 to 900 hrs involved in building a car what would you work for. your average nice grocery getter cost 35k with suv's even higher. problem is too many champaign appetites on beer budgets . new car at 40 to 50k is one thing but a dolled up 80's terd is another and thats what the market is full of.
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Posted by joee  -  02/19/2008 07:38 AM
i've built 4 glass cars in the last 10 years. using all new good parts and they've been nice,safe,fast.good looking hot rods. i spent an average of 35k on each one. if i paid someone to build/esemble the cars the price could very well increased by 20k. lot of people pay to get their hot rods built and that's ok except it has driven the cost of cars up. i remember buying a model a with a 46 flathead engine for 65 dollars and driving it 40 miles to home...............
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Posted by amrodder  -  02/19/2008 08:01 AM
I have to agree with Brickman on the parts.When you build a nice ride,you need good parts and they are not cheap.I beleive it might be expected to try to geta decent price for a nice build that you know is done right.
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Posted by RedricoAdelphianet  -  02/19/2008 08:51 AM
theres an ass for every seat and a seat for every ass lol.





regards

rich
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Posted by Franke33  -  02/19/2008 09:23 AM
I think that anyone who has built a complete car from the bottom up has a much greater appreciation for what the true costs are. Which is what Shine said and Joee said and a couple of other guys. I know what I have into my car for parts and I did all the work myself @.04 an hr, but if I looked at that car with a price tag on it to cover those costs I would walk right by. It has always been a rule of thumb that a nice hot rod would be about the same price as any nice car. And I will take the performance of my hot rod over any car that I could afford from the dealer. There is something about -You push the pedal down and the car goes forward that can't be beat.........as long as you can stop.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/19/2008 10:28 AM
you ever get your money out of a bass boat ? how about a golf cart ? it's called a hobby and hobbies cost money period.
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Posted by cr55  -  02/19/2008 11:06 AM
the problem I have with the inflated prices is when you try to purchase another one. The owners all think their rides, no matter what shape they're in, are worth way too much!!!! Even clones are bringing a lot of money. I don't hold anything against a builder trying to make a profit from a build,but where is it going to stop? I built my 37 chevy sedan from the frame removal to the chopped top and I never expect to be paid back on the amount of hours I have in it. I don't want to step on anyones toes. I'm just disgusted with the escalating prices!!!!!!
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/19/2008 11:26 AM
there is no stopping point. you poured any concrete lately ? what i'm disgusted with is people thinking the price should be the same as 25 years ago. this is 2008 not 1975 . the hobby has moved way beyond backyard builds and will only go up from here. streetrodding as we know it is slowly fading away. most folks no longer build their own but choose to have it done . thus the labor bill is finally included in the price. you want to sell yours for parts only fine but i have overhead and taxes to pay. we've been here before with folks saying how they built theirs for 20k but they never count labor. most have no idea how many man hours are in a build. the restorod pre 48 thing is gone. just like the restored cars there are fewer and fewer people interested in them. so we try to keep up with the times and that means more parts and labor. there's 100 more hrs of bodywork involved with the cars found today, not to mention the cost of materials. do the math sometime
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Posted by cr55  -  02/19/2008 11:37 AM
I agree with what you're saying. It's just with the high pricing that puts the car way out of reach for most people and they will never have the pleasure and fun of owning one.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/19/2008 11:41 AM
if they cant afford to buy one then they need to build their own. champaign apatite , beer budget. it's why i learned to do it. i'd like to have a zo6 but i cant afford it. hey it's always been a small club.
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Posted by DaveHughes  -  02/19/2008 11:45 AM
its all about replacement value- I would sell mine for 10 k if could buy one like it for 10k. thats where the prices come from . replacement costs.. Every now and then you will find someone who is getting out of the hobby who is not interested in replacing there car. Sometimes you get a deal there. Deals are out there but they dont knock on your door wanting to sell you there car.
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Posted by cr55  -  02/19/2008 12:48 PM
I agree with both of you. The part I don't like is how everyone thinks their car is worth way more than it really is. So it makes it hard for the average person to be able to buy one.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/19/2008 01:01 PM
the average person cant buy a 30k bass boat either. do you really think someone should be able to buy a new one of a kind , hand built car for less than the junk coming out of detroit ? as for the junk people try to sell on ebay they dont get anywhere near the pipe dream the think is there. they want to sell a ratty 10k car for 35k so they can buy a good car. i see them all the time. new paint and open the door and it's 1985. you cannot compare the prices for new cars with this worn out junk on the market. you want a 20k car they are all over the place but you cant buy a 50k car for that.
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Posted by cr55  -  02/19/2008 01:18 PM
some people are getting extremely high prices though.
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Posted by cr55  -  02/19/2008 01:18 PM
some people are getting extremely high prices though.
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Posted by lenbeal  -  02/19/2008 01:22 PM
I have been buying and selling for several years now. Its like going into walmart, you see a group of shoppers, you go into a Neiman Marcus you see another type of shopper. Their have always been highs and low in the car business. If you can get that buck go for it. I like to stay in the 15K to 40K price range. It works well for me. One thing I have notice at all these Internet sites and a car show where cars are for sale. Their is always a asking price. You never see a what I sold it for price and you never will. Also alot of trades take place and That a whole different subject. BUT BEWARE.
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Posted by RedricoAdelphianet  -  02/19/2008 03:28 PM
you know when i work on my car, im doing it because i want and like doing it. and down the road when its time for it to go i wont be adding up all the labor, im not doing it to make a living im doing it because i want to.thats why the price will be reasonable when its time for it to go.then again maybe im just STUPID.



REGARDS

RICH
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/19/2008 03:58 PM
well sir, some of us have to make a living doing it. and thats a little tuff working for parts and grins.
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Posted by RedricoAdelphianet  -  02/19/2008 04:38 PM
SHINE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR COMING FROM AND TOTALY AGREE, AS FOR MY-SELF IF I CAN BREAK EVEN IN THIS HOBBY AFTER EVERY THING IS SAID AND DONE, WELL THEN IM A HAPPY CAMPER.



REGARDS

RICH
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Posted by dixie  -  02/19/2008 06:51 PM
HEY 37TIN DID BOTH HEADS UP & BRACKET HERES ONE AT A PRO-STAR MEET
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Posted by TxLumpy  -  02/19/2008 09:45 PM
I'm wanting to build a new car...........but with the rising prices of gas, I'm wondering when I get to the show............is anybody else going to be there. I just made hotel reservations in Okla. City and Springfield, Mo. this morning for two NSRA shows that I have attended for the last ten years. I wonder what the effect will be?
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Posted by Ken_tech  -  02/19/2008 11:12 PM
The high price of gas will lessen the numbers of rods/people at shows to some degree, but I don't think it will be significant. If sacrifices need to be made to attend, they will be made. The NSRA shows will still be great. Looking forward to the 2008 season. regards, Ken
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/20/2008 08:44 AM
i dont think it's gas prices so much lumpy. rooms are getting a little pricey. but what i hear most is folks just dont want to make the long haul anymore. i know i dont do so well on road trips anymore. old bones get to aching. but if you have one making 6 miles to the gallon it may be different. now days you need to consider fuel millage when building.
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Posted by lenbeal  -  02/20/2008 08:56 AM
I just sent in my Regestration for NSRA Knoxville and Louisville, plus my Hotel reservation for louisville. The reaon for early action is to do some planing with the old budget. What ever it takes I will be their. Two shows I never miss. Their will be others this year but these two are my favorits. I sent aside a few buck each month for other shows like Myrtle Beach in March, Goodguys in Charlotte and Indy. Where I have seen a lot of growth is in the cruise in events. No cost but fuel and usually a 30 min to 2 hr drive. They are getting bigger each event.
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Posted by TxLumpy  -  02/20/2008 02:29 PM
Hey Shine........no doubt about the price of the room and they vary from show to show. Here's what I got so for. Okla City..76.00.. Springfield...88.00...Red Neck Nats..Hamond, La. 100.00.....Spindletop, which this year was moved to Pt Arthur or as the Coonasses pronounce it..Pt. R tour. 55.00.. Hot August Nights...Beaumont...90.00....State Run....100.00... Boerne, I quit staying in Boerne. I got side ways with some rag head and he called the Police on me. I've stayed in San Antonio for the last two years and alot of people are doing that.
Mr. lenbeal......I sure like your ford convertible.........I got a thang for those old 46-47-48 Fords.
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Posted by Crazyhorse Rod Shop  -  02/20/2008 12:49 PM
len just puts that pic up there to drive me nuts. makes me wanna cut the top off inderweed i'm with you lumpy. my favorite car next to the 37 is 46-7-8 fords. i loved this pink one.
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